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This is amazing. I shall do an analysis of what has happened at www.ivorcatt.co.uk/bruton.htm . At
least I hope to. Briefly for now. There are two sciences, real science and Pop science. The
public, and funding committees, prefer pop science, which becomes pure
theatre.
Science is incompatible with career, because science advances by
revolution, as T S Kuhn (actually Polanyi) says. Careerists cannot have to tear up their text books (about Phlogiston
and Caloric) or lecture notes. Students work hard,and will not allow someone to undermine their
qualifications, which prove they have learned what is already known, not mere
conjecture (or more advanced science). In come archivists and institution librarians and (graduate) museum
keepers. Do they allow Duesberg into their
archives? Will the Science Museum funding increase or decrease if the museum
steps outside pop science, and promotes the newly re-found Heaviside, (or Duesberg)? Is it easier to call Duesberg
(and Catt) homophobic? Since Elizabeth has now blocked Catt, it is necessary for Duesberg to tell Eliozabeth Bruton whether Catt is homophobic. Ivor Catt only recent;ly
stumbled on the idea of "academic omerta".
Only days ago he realised that omerta also applies
to all Catt's expected allies, those who are also suppressed, but on other
subjects - climate, AIDS. It has to be expected that Duesberg will not
in fact write to the Science Museum Elizabeth to say Catt is not homophobic.
Even though study of fringe workers - in libraries and museums, and the way
they have to keep within the canon, surely needs to be studied. The IET still suppresses Heaviside, but the IET, who used to suppress
OH, now spend a lot of money on him. Still the Science museum suppresses
Heaviside. But the archivists in the two places work closely together. There
are many other dysfunctions when Wellcome buys the
Science Museum and then promotes, not their killer
drugs, but orthodox climate change dogma (the other scam). Why do the
operators of the AIDS scam, after spending so much money buying the Science
Museum, promote the other major scam, climate, not their own scam, AIDS
killer pills? Why will the victims of all this, Duesberg
and Sonja, not cooperate to study the "system"? The Smithsonian hedges its bets between the two theories of flight - Bernouilli and Newton. The Science Museum suppresses
both. All will continue to suppress the Catt idea that both theories of
flight are not theory of flight, but theory of lift in a wind tunnel. Look at
the arrows, from left to right. Sonja and Euesberg
(and even Hodgkinson) will not step outside their turf and study the other
suppressions, in other fields. Ivor Catt On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 9:25 AM Elizabeth Bruton
<Elizabeth.Bruton@sciencemuseum.ac.uk>
wrote: Dear Ivor, Unfortunately I cannot continue a conversation of any kind with
someone who believe that the allegedly suppressed
science of their friends (colleagues?) is worth even one awful death by
HIV/AIDS let alone hundred of thousands of my gay
brothers and sisters and others too. I’m done and you’re blocked. Liz DR. ELIZABETH BRUTON +44 (0)207 942 4061 From: Ivor Catt <ivorcatt@gmail.com> All these emails in one or two hours between Elizabeth and Stephen are
fabulous. Elizabeth wants to keep to the subject of who employs her. Here is
something for starters. Aa an engineer in Cambridge on theory of flight I was taught Bernouilli, and believed it for 40 years. Then two
Americans pulleed the plug with Newton. I felt such
a fool, and checked out the Smithsonian and Science Museum. I found the
Smithsonian hedged their bets and promoted both, in say 1990. The Science
Museum still has no Theory of Flight at all. I tried to get the info through
to a voilunteer guide but failed. However, the Science
Museum has many many planes, but I cannot tell
which notice board refers to which plane. I am, ex RAF and my father was 30
years RAF, so I really want to know about those planes. It only needs a
number hanging on a planwe, for instance 7, and a
number on its notice board. Recently I came up with my own third theory of flight, which nobody
knows. I would be very happy if Elizabeth asked me what it was. I hope shwe doesn't just check my website, where she might ifnd my third theory. Eliz has published an article on Heaviside, so she kno9ws about OH. My
best story owuld be uif
her employers totally exxcluded OH, but not so.
There are perhaps five words about him in the middle of one three line small
notice. That is all her emplpoyers have on OH. They
have a great deal about his much less important uncle Wheatstone. I shall be
very grateful if she gets OH into his rightful position. Now for the Einstein shrine. I was deeply horrified, and could not
stay in the room when I took Stephen there. However, he has been replaced by
something even more upmarket than Ein, now a woman
in space figures instead. However, I am no fan of Ein. Wellcome bought the
Science museum, and promotes the Establishment view on AIDS, totally
suppressing the contrary view of Duesberg and the
other 500 or 1,000 scientists including myself and Nobel |Prize Winner Kary Mullis. On the phone, Kary
weeps in frustration because people die because he is suppressed in order
that Wellcome can sell more killer drugs. Duesberg is full of
praise for the thesis by Sue that I got her to write. .http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/sue.html Ivor @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Dear Ivor, Congrats to "The decline of science". Neville's email address: neville.hodgkinson@uk.bkwsu.org Cordially, Peter Ivor On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 1:47 PM Stephen Crothers <thenarmis@yahoo.com>
wrote: "Steve made a pretty
serious accusation about the Science Museum and IET archives which he has yet
to provide any evidence for and instead went off on a tangent about alleged
suppression of science." Elizabeth Bruton There is nothing alleged or
tangential about the suppression of science. The scientific truth is
routinely suppressed so that demonstrable falsehoods can continue to fleece
the public purse of billions for nonsensical and useless contraptions
masquerading as research projects. Steve Crothers On Tuesday, 26 February 2019,
13:38:09 UTC, Elizabeth Bruton <Elizabeth.Bruton@ScienceMuseum.ac.uk>
wrote: Dear
Ivor, I asked
to not be included in emails unrelated to the crosstalk and Heaviside and was
happy that you obliged. Then the emails from your colleague / friend Steve
came through making some pretty serious and, as yet, utterly ungrounded
accusations that the Science Museum (for which I work for) and IET archives
(with whom I work closely) would not adhere to their legal obligations to
preserve and provide access to material that is or would come to their / our
collections and archives. We have,
I believe, exchanged tens of emails beginning with your initial enquiry about
my Heaviside article in the Phil Trans special issue and I
have yet to receive an email which concretely relates to Heaviside’s work on
crosstalk. I would be delighted to receive such an email but will not hold my
breath. I don’t
believe I have the time to meet for lunch with someone who refers to me as a
“babe in the woods”. Lastly:
yes, I am a Julie Andrews fan and quite enjoy the Sound of Music. Indeed I
cited it in a footnote of my PhD thesis – see Bruton,
E (2012) “Beyond Marconi: the roles of the Admiralty, the Post Office, and
the Institution of Electrical Engineers in the invention and development of
wireless communication up to 1908”, 135. Available online at http://etheses.whiterose.ac.uk/4431/1/EBruton%20.pdf
Perhaps of more interest, two Heavisides (Oliver
and Arthur) are mentioned on pp. 58-62, 116, 119 in my thesis and my PhD
research on crosstalk led to my Phil Trans paper. I also
included the Searle book in my bibliography. Regards, Liz DR. ELIZABETH BRUTON +44
(0)207 942 4061 From: Ivor Catt <ivorcatt@gmail.com> Dear,
dear Elizabeth, Deja vu.
Some time ago you told me to go away, and i replied
that I would go away, for good. Then you came back. Further, the Julie
Andrews sound of music singing you then sent us was surely not within your
professional responsibilities. If you
"do a Pepper", who has cut off from me for 25 years, that is
simple. Steve and I can permanently cut off from you. However, your srticle in the Heaviside centenary volume about heaviside was the only one about Heaviside. All the
others were about their authors, not Heaviside. Except that the Yakovlev
article was devoted, not to Heaviside, but to me, Ivor Catt. You
could join us in studying why articles allegedly about Heaviside are not in
fact about Heaviside, but about their several authors, except the Yak one is
not about Yak, but about me. Six
months ago Alex Yak emailed me that our business was "every man for himself". Shall I find his email, or will you believe
me? You are
probably just a Babe in the Wood. However, whatever your situation, we very
much need your help. Science is in a terrible mess, and I have gained a good
grasp of the situation. I would love to come and tell you about what you have
become enmeshed in. I could take you out to lunch as my guest, the restaurant
of your choosing. Ivor
Catt http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/yak.htm http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/x59596.htm On Mon,
Feb 25, 2019 at 8:49 AM Elizabeth Bruton <Elizabeth.Bruton@sciencemuseum.ac.uk>
wrote: Steve
made a pretty serious accusation about the Science Museum and IET archives
which he has yet to provide any evidence for and instead went off on a
tangent about alleged suppression of science. I
figured if we were going to go off on a tangent, we might as well as go on a
tangent at least loosely related to my professional responsibilities – that
is for the Audio and Sounds Reproduction collections and more specifically
musical theatre. I don’t
mean to raise the heat in this email thread any further but it really does
beg the question: Do Disney films count as musicals and, if so, is “Let it
go” from Disney’s Frozen the musical anthem of the 2010s? Answers on
postcard please. Lastly,
given that this email thread has strayed quite far from my professional and
collections responsibilities at the Science Museum, I shall have to bid you
gentleman adieu and must request to not be included in future email
correspondence (again!). Regards, Liz DR ELIZABETH BRUTON +44 (0)207 942 4061 Science
Museum London SW7 2DD Twitter: @lizbruton From: Ivor Catt <ivorcatt@gmail.com> EB
stepped outside the box On Fri,
Feb 22, 2019 at 10:00 PM Elizabeth Bruton <Elizabeth.Bruton@sciencemuseum.ac.uk>
wrote: Regards, Liz From: Ivor Catt <ivorcatt@gmail.com> Dear
Elizabeth, The
circulation for your recent email includes at least two thoroughly dishonest
people, easy to prove. http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/x67d.htm Ivor
Catt On Fri,
Feb 22, 2019 at 4:37 PM Elizabeth Bruton <Elizabeth.Bruton@sciencemuseum.ac.uk>
wrote: I
entirely disagree that the scientific community at large is dishonest and
this is something we are going to have to agree to disagree on. You are not
going to change my mind any more than I will change yours. Liz DR. ELIZABETH BRUTON +44
(0)207 942 4061 From: Stephen Crothers <thenarmis@yahoo.com> Dear
Elizabeth, Your
faith in your institutions does not mean that they are trustworthy. Enough
has transpired for others to distrust them. Enough has transpired across the
board to know that the scientific community at large is dishonest, but like
usual suspects, it pleads innocence, even when confronted with evidence. Yours
faithfully, Steve
Crothers On
Saturday, 23 February 2019, 2:31:07 am AEDT, Elizabeth Bruton
<Elizabeth.Bruton@ScienceMuseum.ac.uk> wrote: Dear
Steve, My
comments were directly specifically about the Science Museum and the IET
Archives and not the IET more generally (although I would trust the latter).
I cannot comment on editorial policy at the IET, IEEE, or Phil Trans journals
or indeed discussions at the Royal Society but I can, as per my previous
email, say that the Science Museum and IET archives do not suppress science
and does make (indeed are obliged to make) their archival material and object
collections available to the general public and would not, were either
institution to take in Ivor’s Heaviside material, make sure they were never
seen again – a very serious and mis-placed
accusation indeed. Regards, Liz DR. ELIZABETH BRUTON +44
(0)207 942 4061 From: Stephen Crothers <thenarmis@yahoo.com> Dear
Elizabeth, Ivor
Catt has been banned from IET and IEEE journals for more than 50 years.
Members of the Royal Society refuse to discuss between themselves their
contradictory answers to The Catt Question. Oliver Heaviside was not
mentioned in textbooks for the best part of 100 years. The recent memorial
publication of articles on Heaviside in the Philosophical Transactions
painted a false picture of Heaviside, where the articles mentioned him, and
most of the articles did not even address what is in Heaviside's books and
papers. Ivor Catt, custodian of a large cache of Heaviside's paper and
letters, which I have personally inspected and held in my hands, was not even
invited to contribute an article to this special publication of the
Transactions. You
might very well trust the IET, but it does not follow from that that the IET
is trustworthy. I wouldn't trust its people as far as I could spit, given its
record. Let's see if the IET will publish 50 words by Catt. I'll bet you the
proverbial London to a brick that it won't, just as it hasn't. Yours
faithfully, Steve
Crothers On
Saturday, 23 February 2019, 1:40:19 am AEDT, Elizabeth Bruton
<Elizabeth.Bruton@ScienceMuseum.ac.uk>
wrote: Dear
Steve, The
existing Heaviside collection held by the IET Archives is catalogued
extensively at http://archives.theiet.org/detail.aspx?parentpriref=110000175 and
searchable via their online catalogue, as is other Heaviside material held by
the archives. All Heaviside material held by the IET archives is publicly
accessible by booking in an appointment to visit the archives via the link
sent through in my previous email. IET Archives also have biography of
Heaviside on their website at https://www.theiet.org/publishing/library-archives/the-iet-archives/biographies/oliver-heaviside-1850-1925/
In addition, IET Archives waived image reproduction
fees for Heaviside-related images from their collection which I included in
my Phil Trans paper. If this is suppression of science, then we shall have to
agree to disagree. Regards, Liz DR. ELIZABETH BRUTON +44
(0)207 942 4061 From: Stephen Crothers <thenarmis@yahoo.com> Dear
Elizabeth, Laws
make no difference to anybody who wants to try to suppress science. I will
send you under separate cover a very recent example. Yours
faithfully, Steve
Crothers On
Saturday, 23 February 2019, 12:33:44 am AEDT, Elizabeth Bruton
<Elizabeth.Bruton@ScienceMuseum.ac.uk>
wrote: Dear
Steve, Under
the National Heritage Act 2002 both the IET Archives and Science Museum have
an obligation to preserve and manage our collections including archival
holdings and to make them available to the general public. Details on the
Science Museum library and archives including our online catalogue and how to
arrange a visit are at https://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/researchers/library-and-archives-national-collections-centre
Details on the IET archives including their online catalogue and how to visit
are at https://www.theiet.org/publishing/library-archives/the-iet-archives/
The accusation you make that papers given to either the Science Museum or IET
archives would never been seen again is a very serious and entirely
unjustified one. The
email below was sent to Ivor, Alex and Chris only and, as per the footer at
the bottom of all our Science Museum emails, “This e-mail and attachments are
intended for the named addressee only and are confidential”, and so it was
not in Ivor’s gift to include further recipients nor for you to quote it in
such a bizarre fashion. ... Attachments area Preview YouTube video Sir Michael Pepper FREng FRS | Winner of The IET Faraday Medal 2013
Sir Michael Pepper FREng FRS | Winner of The
IET Faraday Medal 2013 Preview YouTube video Disney's Frozen "Let It
Go" Sequence Performed by Idina Menzel
Disney's Frozen "Let It Go" Sequence Performed by Idina Menzel |
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